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Boundaries
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Copyright: Mark Parsley (mortcdz) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Workshop Editor/Silver Note Writer [C: 1265 W: 197 N: 17] (53)
Género: Gente
Medio: Color
Tomada el: 2009-03-08
Categorías: Divertidas
Cámara: Canon 450D Rebel XSi, Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Exposición: f/5.6, 1/60 segundos
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
Versión de la foto: Versión original
Fecha enviada: 2009-03-08 11:10
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Recent discussions on the forum here on TL got me thinking about censorship and the line between what is acceptable and what isn't, in a reasonable and moral community. Barbie has been the centre of a huge number of moral outrages and acts of censorship over the last 50 years (some of them reasonable, I mean who wants to see the S&M Barbie, and some no more than a product of the time)

Now, is the picture of a naked doll, in a suggestive pose, offensive? Were do we draw the line as to what is acceptable and what isn't?

From Wikipedia, the font of all internet knowledge -
"Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which may be considered objectionable, harmful or sensitive, as determined by a censor....Moral censorship, is the removal of materials that censor deems to be obscene or otherwise morally questionable."

Photography is an art form, and art always has to push boundaries unless it is to become stale and stagnant, the question is just how far should the boundaries be pushed on TL?

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Hello Mark

EXCELLENT idea and note.
Hahahaha
YES , what's acceptable and what isn't? Good question.

Creative and artistic shot
I take it in my favorite.
Nice light on this Barbie... hihihihi

Best regards

i think treklens tos states clearly that nude pictures are excluded, still some nude pictures are not deleted...
funny picture, hehe

Good evening Mark,

I must say that I find your image and note, especially the note, very intriguing, interesting, daring...but not offensive. It is hard to define what is offensive these days and just how far should the boundaries be pushed.

Each and every single person has their own concept of what is acceptable and what is not. I think that is partly influenced by our upbringing, education and also religious believes and party is influenced by the environment we live in. Boundaries are always hard to set in a way that would please everyone. There will always be people who will object to the way things are dealth with.

I believe that photography and also other forms of art must and should be used to push boundaries further and open our minds to new ideas and approaches. But then again...in what way sould they do it? In non offensive of course. And here we are again...running around in circles.

Since TL is site to learn, to get to know the world and people through photography, boundaries should be adjusted to that. And we can't learn, if we have bunch of strict rules that tie our hands and narrow our minds. But in our learning process we must adapt to other people as well, to their cultures and believes.

Yes, this is hard question to answer on...

Stasa

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  • KrL Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 520 W: 123 N: 488] (7363)
  • [2009-03-08 12:47]
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Bonjour Mark,
J'ai pris la décision d'arrêter de lire ce forum... on tourne en rond et rien n'avance avec cette moralité à deux balles !
La moralité à bon dos parfois.
Bref, je ne vois rien de choquant, la dérision est la meilleure des armes et j'adhère totalement
Good job !

Karèle

Hello Mark,

It is/was an interesting topic in the forum thread, but it seems like an issue that will never get resolved either here or elsewhere for that matter. There are too many factors and cultural differences.
I think that addressing it in this way, with this posting is very clever. Humorous, but then not in any way degrading to either side of the issue or to women.

Did you know Barbie just turned 50 last month...she still looks great.

Kind regards,
Jim

HAHA! I love your sense of humor Mark! What a question that has been presented to the masses on TL. Nudity, how much? how little? It's like this. How much air do we need?? some need more, some need less. It's almost impossible to legislate morality. Untimately it's up to Admin. Each site is self-governing. The movement belongs to the people. If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen....or don't look at the pic. Admin will decide.
B-)
Love this one!
Linda

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  • Alexia Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 189 W: 0 N: 220] (2450)
  • [2009-03-08 16:38]

Ciao...è simpaticissima
questa foto..
complimenti

Alexia

Well done Mark - an interesting way of furthering the discussion.
Personally I find TL a little bit too prime and proper but there isn't much chance of me taking risque shots - so who cares!
cheers
Jack

Hi Mark
about shot the green smile if for your work and artwork of your fantasy.
about question is too difficult a one reply because of different thought of each of us
But I like your provocation and way of discuss about this theme and your shot is good for thinking...
Yes Barbie was in the center of censors for lot of years..but world is changing...always.
have good day
ciao
Lucio

Hi Mark.

Well. I did not dare to say a word about it on the forum because it is a too sensitive subject and sensitive subjects are often hard to argue reasonably. But I like the way you express yourself about it. :) Very creative and imaginative. Bravo.

Best Regards

Your note have made my day. It speaks so much to me. It does even in day to day life too, we're bombarded with so many conflicting ideas and suggestions. Horror, war, rights and censorship. What's proper and who hold the truth. The "right" way to go about things, where is the middle, is there any, or just part of a huge utopia, call hope. Glad to "know you".

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  • Dingo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2744 W: 369 N: 2624] (11948)
  • [2009-04-27 11:55]

Sorry to see you go, Mark... at least you left a couple of pictures in your gallery. I like this one in particular, a nice idea (about a not so nice situation) which you have worked out very well.
TFS

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